Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? Teaching himself to hear his own songs objectively has been one of the harder lessons to learn, he says: Its impossible to get that distance for me. And hes saying, you know, basically that hes going to support her and hes there for her. In the decade-plus that Shires has been making solo albums in addition to working as a side person with Billy Joe Shaver, Justin Townes Earle and, eventually, her husband and fellow singer-songwriter Jason Isbell she's expressed self-consciousness about the shivers and tremors in her singing voice, tried to smooth them out of her delivery and ultimately embraced its untameness. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. We found out that, yes, our grandmothers are pro-choice. The Mandalorian Season Three Gets Off to a Disappointing Start GROSS: Your mother earlier in her life worked as a bail bondsman, right? When it reopened, he was in the first 200. On August 9, 2021 Thats the song Faultlines, performed by Amanda Shires with Zach Setchfield on guitar in Amandas home studio outside of Nashville, Tenn. Thats one of the songs on her new album, Take It Like a Man. So lets talk about that song a little bit. And she also plays in her husband, Jason Isbells, band. And I said, Id love to. Chris Tompkins, a high school friend who has co-written mainstream country hits including Carrie Underwoods Before He Cheats and Florida Georgia Lines Get Your Shine On, says Isbell seemed on a different level even back when they were covering Stairway to Heaven together. Say whatever feels better or whatever. And I save them all and I return to them often I own one of his guitars My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen I really do feel like he did a lot of work for me that I dont have to do. Thats what I want. And if anyone asks me, Ill say whats true I dont know. But it was true. A few hours later, his band is peeling the wallpaper with their customary encore cover tune. Since starting I So Lounging, Shires YouTube following has grown 300 percent. Jason Isbell performs in Gulf Shores, Alabama. Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. Become a member of WLIW ($5 monthly or $60 annually) and get access to WLIW Passport as our thanks for your support. When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. You know, like, how does that go? Yeah, I can do an excerpt. And I know that Jasons platform is bigger than mine. And tell us how. And I thought if Im going to get any rest, Im going to have to do something about this. And hed play songs, and Id learn them. Some of the reason [The Problem] is only coming out now is fear on my part, and Ill admit that. Amanda Shires is a singing, songwriting. He has since learned to tell the story of his recovery. ", In the bruising roots rocker "Eve's Daughter," propelled by a tense groove and serrated, scraggy guitar riffs, Shires plays the part of a woman so desperate to expand her horizons and satisfy her hunger that she's unafraid to take risks in the name of escape. I was gifted as a girl. SHIRES: Oh, yeah. I like to play pool, he says. This has been the hardest year. Ive been around so many people for so long who were. And I dont know. My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. Bergen is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. (Playing guitar, singing) Like a common loon, I started hearing birds, birdsong everywhere. I hope youll join us. One is a Honduran asylum-seeker who died while trying to cross the border. Here's why. Or is this through listening to his records that you feel like youre his disciple? On your Twitter, you describe yourself as a disciple of Leonard Cohen. WebAmanda Shires - The Problem (feat. Thank you for performing for us. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. Theyre just, you know, scans of them. hide caption. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda I dont care if somebody wants to put a target on me. And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. Tommy Duncan was the singer. But theres a medication you can take that aborts the fertilized egg from your fallopian tube. SHIRES: When I write songs, I go into it either with an idea to explore something, make sense of the world or my feelings, you know, all that. Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. Theres a lot of things you do with your hands, but it struck me the most is matching the feeling of desperation or even begging. I would have died; my daughter, Mercy, would have lost her mother; my husband, Jason, would be a widower. They might not have had a voice before or might have been cast out into the streets without any place to sleep had they mentioned it earlier in their lives. And after we recorded it, he said, Thats a really good song. And I said, Thats all you have to say. Amanda Shires has become a coveted presence at the intersection of nervy artistry and activism, folk and country acclaim, rock attitude and Nashville influence. GROSS: That sounds really, really awful. When her distinctive vibrato appears on To the Sunset, as a subtle emotive tool or punctuation in her storytelling, it feels like an electrical charge shuddering through the live wire of her voice. And I said, I dont know. The Idol: How HBOs Next Euphoria Became Twisted Torture Porn Click the audio link above to get the full experience, On channeling her feelings about her marriage into writing Fault Lines and showing it to Isbell, I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering, and this is after some kind of nebulous argument, and I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine, I said, I just wrote this song. And then in my mind I thought, Well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? So one of the things you learned, like, I think in the past few years is that your grandfather had spent years in prison. And Bob Wills was, like, the father of Western Swing, which combined country music and jazz. The Highwomen were tapped as last-minute fill ins, though founding member Amanda Shires was unable to attend as she continues to recover from an emergency Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. GROSS: Well, in 2020, you and your husband, Jason Isbell, recorded a duet of a song you wrote called The Problem. And the song is from the perspective of a teenage couple. There were probably 2,500 people, and Im just standing there with a guitar, elevated and facing everyone. I mean, is it fatal for a woman if nothing is done? For those who are unfamiliar, it is impossible for an ectopic pregnancy to go to term. GROSS: Good. And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. And he said, well, you can always put it on there and just choose not to answer questions about it and, you know or you can he was pushing for me to leave Fault Lines on there because it is a good song, as he said. With artists and concert promoters nationwide forced to confront a surging spike in infections and hospitalizations attributed to the spread of the delta variant, Grammy award-winning musician, Jason Isbell, announced Monday that he and his band, the 400 Unit, will require concertgoers to provide proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to attend all their future shows, whether they are held indoors or outdoors. And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. The next time Jason Isbell told Amanda Shires he wanted to quit, she began talking with his manager about facilitating a trip to rehab. However, the "night-before bender" nearly broke them. Shires told WNYC Studios, "He wanted to do every drug, drink every thing, drink the moonshine, all the late night stuff, it was crazy. Why did you want to form this group? Ninety-five percent of study participants who did have an abortion still stood by their decision. I hope you get well soon. Isbell responded, Thank you Aimee. SHIRES: About singing, yes. And I am still alive. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. She performs in several settings and has received awards in each of them. I was lucky. Amy Salit and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. It doesnt have to be Im Your Man. I just know that youve done that. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. The timing of The Problem and the fact that its benefiting the Yellowhammer Fund are both important, as draconian, punitive abortion laws have been enacted in Alabama and neighboring states in the last year. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. It was there I found, beside the Alamo, enchantment, strange as the blue up above. Hearing Shires spell that out is invigorating. I remember I used to think the force was strong with him, says Tompkins, who signed his first publishing deal when he moved to Nashville at 22. And I guess when we got to the third album sequence that I had, Jason was like, why isnt Fault Lines on there? Where would that leave my own daughter? When it came down to it, when I finally got it done and recorded, Amy Coney Barrett had gotten sworn in. Her new album is Take It Like a Man. Hearing these stories, I think that it makes your backbone stronger. I remember thinking, Wow, theres a lot of potential for me to really mess this up.'. I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. All the time, the want, the overwhelming volume of breathing. Yeah without you asking. Do you need the reasons why? And, you know, I didnt know that this was a thing you should normally ask to do cause I was young. It rings out like its supposed to. After recording and touring for several years with the Drive-By Truckers, for whom he wrote standouts including Decoration Day, Outfit and Danko/Manuel, Isbell launched his solo career in 2007. And my hands are two empty cups. When Roe is overturned, some healthcare workers may feel afraid to help people. She gets pregnant and wants to have an abortion, although she doesnt feel great about it. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. Were you just, like, the cute kid who could play but, you know that audiences would go wild over because you were a girl in the band and there wasnt much of that? I got to a certain age and realized I couldnt be Indiana Jones.. Ive found and scrounged and continue to for every interview that hes done in any form, in any language. I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. And from there, he introduced me to Frankie McWhorter. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. SHIRES: Thats all you have to say? The sound of silence rings in every room. And I was really into that.. And we had a TV that wed watch, you know, Saturday Night Live on Saturdays. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. And usually that works. SHIRES: Theres this song called Milk Cow Blues. Its blues, you know? You can call it serious trouble cause thats what I want. GROSS: Was this your mothers father or your fathers father? (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, HAWK FOR THE DOVE), GROSS: Our digital media producer is Molly Seavy-Nesper. And I said, OK. And then I fell in love. GROSS: I think its so interesting that your mother worked as a bail bondsman, not knowing that her own father had spent so much time in prison. I still miss the way you lean in. 'Mandalorian' star Pedro Pascal, creators on new Grogu revelations and 'Last of Us' comparisons, Saved by the bell: Contestant ordered to keep mask on, in historic 'Masked Singer' first, Chris Pine admits 'it does look' like Harry Styles spit on him but this is what actually happened, Rebel Wilson 'collapsed' after Ramona Agruma proposal: 'I was so overwhelmed', Amy Grant recalls being 'so scared' to return to touring following serious bike accident. And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. Michael Schmelling. And I said, yeah, I feel like theres not a lot happening there emotionally for me. And in this certain period of time, there was a lot. "Isn't it just like a daughter to make a fool of you? If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. GROSS: So we have to take another short break here, so let me reintroduce you. Weve had legal abortions for 50 years and now, suddenly, a long-held right will be illegal. Well be right back. (Singing) Time was all Id want. Or did you keep the songs, like, kind of secret for a while? Lets get back to the interview I recorded last week with singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires. And so I got to do that basically because I was willing to work in a group and play a part and do just that thing and show up on time. I know the cost of flight is landing. And here it sits. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. The election is November 8. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, SWIMMER), GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. Members get extended access to PBS video on demand and more. Where are our Nashville folks? McWhorter, who had played fiddle in Bob Wills band, became her teacher, and when Shires was just 15, he asked her to join The Texas Playboys. But through the process of making the record and, you know, all the things that go with that, the hours and the tedium, it got easier for us to have conversations, not because we were doing the work of addressing the problems but because we were found common ground on something again, which has always been music and words. Is there a song that youd like to do? And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. In an interview on MSNBC Monday, Isbell stated the response he has received from people who work at the venues and in the music business has been positive because they understand we could go back to not working at all, adding that smaller venues might not be able to reopen if they go through another round of shutdowns. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. (Playing fiddle). No way. The spurs of hip bones Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. I know I can take it like a man. And she came over and I showed her. I was snared by your wrist. Its just like you would expect, but theres real, scientific proof for it now. 99.99%. And Lanny Fiel, he would say, youre really, really great at the parts you love. If you see my milk cow, please drive her on home cause I had no milk and butter no since my cows been gone. Like, do you say, hey, honey, heres a song I wrote about how bad things are between us right now? It just seemed like the right thing to do because I dont want to spend my time on stage worried about if Im making people sick.. So I think she did a good job. But anyway so I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering. I just feel like that invites a lot of conversation and questions, you know, into our marriage and our relationship. And it just worked when we did it. GROSS: Whoa. I want Garth Brooks out there telling people that womens health is a priority. So by the time I went into the hospital, my fallopian tube had already ruptured. SHIRES: I found that out for Christmas, Jasons merchandise guy, Chance, gave us each our family trees. Opening with solemn piano chords, The Problem features Isbells voice first, then Shires joins, and the pair trade lines as they move the story along. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. And, you know, she. "Through a sunset, shifting gears, to the something better shining diamond clear.". And I think they probably had conversations that you would, if you were that close to each other, about that stuff and didnt bring it up. And you got your start professionally at age 15 playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys. Im Terry Gross. But anyway, he just grabbed my hand and held it. We found music, and then being in the Shoals area just gave us an early look at all the places music can take you. So heres my guest, Amanda Shires, and Jason Isbell singing her song, The Problem.. And the character you wrote yourself out to be, the flagship all part of my fooling. And why did you want to work it into a song? Amid the rise in infections, it was reported last week that one of the worlds most prominent concert promoters, Live Nation, will allow artists performing at its venues to require guests in the U.S. to show proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. If youre just joining us, my guest is Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. This is FRESH AIR. Shires has an MFA in poetry, and she's exacting in her use of imagery to portray sensuality as a force both internal and physical. Shes also one of the founders of the group the Highwomen. Thats abundantly clear on his breakout new album, Southeastern, one of the years best in any genre. Other than that, I think were all right. SHIRES: Honestly, a lot of times, my thoughts come to me just in pictures. And I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine. Maybe I was asking for a little too much. And thank you for putting up with me. SHIRES: My whole left arm is tattoos of Leonard Cohen. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van. Why didnt more people show up and speak up? When I wrote my first piece for Rolling Stone, Id had an abortion before. GROSS: Lets take another break here. And so I felt in my mind, I felt those things. SHIRES: And I think Sheryl Crow plays bass on that one. All rights reserved (About Us). Then I get to the end of the recording process and try to decide what makes the best collection of songs. SHIRES: Sure. SHIRES: I didnt know anything about them. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. During the #MeToo moment, much emphasis has been rightly placed on the need for women to guard themselves against the unrestrained appetites of male perpetrators. Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. Well close with the opening track from Amanda Shires new album. When youre trying to make a tough decision, you need a lot of support. They arent helping. Sign up for Rolling Stones Newsletter. I cried, I asked and I balled. 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